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		<title>By: Daniel Holbach</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122923</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, it contains ITPs and RFPs, because of the packaging process and stuff.

You&#039;re right. It&#039;d be great to have two teams that are working together, at the moment the Ubuntu NGO team are just finding their feet and getting organised, it&#039;d be a bit much for me to (re-)bootstrap two teams.

foo: Are you involved with the Debian Non-Profit group? Can you liaise with the people there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, it contains ITPs and RFPs, because of the packaging process and stuff.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;d be great to have two teams that are working together, at the moment the Ubuntu NGO team are just finding their feet and getting organised, it&#8217;d be a bit much for me to (re-)bootstrap two teams.</p>
<p>foo: Are you involved with the Debian Non-Profit group? Can you liaise with the people there?</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122835</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That page doesn&#039;t contain the word Debian. It would be great if you could revive the Debian-NP effort, it went dormant after mako stopped working on Debian and started with Ubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That page doesn&#8217;t contain the word Debian. It would be great if you could revive the Debian-NP effort, it went dormant after mako stopped working on Debian and started with Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Oliver</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122808</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to mention after reading the OfflineUpdating wiki article that you have &quot;Also the suggestion was made that there might need to be an OS-independent way of getting updates (perhaps in a web-based way), so that you could get Ubuntu updates in a Windows-based internet cafe.&quot;

I&#039;ve been working on a project like this with future plans of a web based version. The project&#039;s name is Keryx and already has a couple of versions out and a growing community. You can check out our homepage here: http://keryxproject.org

It&#039;s cross platform and we are building a library for it customizable enough to eventually work with multiple types of package systems, APT, RPM, etc. For now with the amount of contributors we have, APT is our main goal and to provide a full suite of features cross-platform for apt systems. I think that it truly might be something you guys would be interested in contributing to as it&#039;s geared to newbies as well as advanced users since we have both a CLI and GUI together cross platform.

No worries if you don&#039;t like it or feel that it&#039;s what you&#039;re looking for, but I figured I&#039;d suggest as it certainly seems in the same aspect as what you guys might be looking for and we could definitely use some more code contributors.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to mention after reading the OfflineUpdating wiki article that you have &#8220;Also the suggestion was made that there might need to be an OS-independent way of getting updates (perhaps in a web-based way), so that you could get Ubuntu updates in a Windows-based internet cafe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a project like this with future plans of a web based version. The project&#8217;s name is Keryx and already has a couple of versions out and a growing community. You can check out our homepage here: <a href="http://keryxproject.org" rel="nofollow">http://keryxproject.org</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s cross platform and we are building a library for it customizable enough to eventually work with multiple types of package systems, APT, RPM, etc. For now with the amount of contributors we have, APT is our main goal and to provide a full suite of features cross-platform for apt systems. I think that it truly might be something you guys would be interested in contributing to as it&#8217;s geared to newbies as well as advanced users since we have both a CLI and GUI together cross platform.</p>
<p>No worries if you don&#8217;t like it or feel that it&#8217;s what you&#8217;re looking for, but I figured I&#8217;d suggest as it certainly seems in the same aspect as what you guys might be looking for and we could definitely use some more code contributors.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Pope</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122786</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubuntu has OLSR in the repo.

http://www.olsr.org/?q=about

&quot;The olsr.org OLSR daemon is an implementation of the Optimized Link State Routing protocol. As such it allows mesh routing for any network equipment.
It runs on any wifi card that supports ad-hoc mode and of course on any ethernet device.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu has OLSR in the repo.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.olsr.org/?q=about" rel="nofollow">http://www.olsr.org/?q=about</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The olsr.org OLSR daemon is an implementation of the Optimized Link State Routing protocol. As such it allows mesh routing for any network equipment.<br />
It runs on any wifi card that supports ad-hoc mode and of course on any ethernet device.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ssam</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122781</link>
		<dc:creator>ssam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aarddict is an offline wikipedia app designed for nokia internet tablets, but also works well on laptops/desktops. it has a custom data format (aar) to allow fast lookups on slow low memory systems. aar files can be made from the wikipedia xml dumps, or can be downloaded from the aarddict site. all GPL writen in python. packages for ubuntu (but not in repos).
http://aarddict.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aarddict is an offline wikipedia app designed for nokia internet tablets, but also works well on laptops/desktops. it has a custom data format (aar) to allow fast lookups on slow low memory systems. aar files can be made from the wikipedia xml dumps, or can be downloaded from the aarddict site. all GPL writen in python. packages for ubuntu (but not in repos).<br />
<a href="http://aarddict.org/" rel="nofollow">http://aarddict.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Holbach</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122778</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have experience there? Could you help us out with docs or packaging or anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have experience there? Could you help us out with docs or packaging or anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Holbach</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122777</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we&#039;re already working together with Debian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/ApplicationPackaging</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we&#8217;re already working together with Debian: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/ApplicationPackaging" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/ApplicationPackaging</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg K Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122776</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg K Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words: mesh network.

If Ubuntu was configured to set up automatic, ad-hoc mesh networking by default—as I think OLPC/Sugar managed to implement—then everyone in the world could have unlimited internet access for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: mesh network.</p>
<p>If Ubuntu was configured to set up automatic, ad-hoc mesh networking by default—as I think OLPC/Sugar managed to implement—then everyone in the world could have unlimited internet access for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Holbach</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122775</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the team is a bit inactive: http://lists.debian.org/debian-nonprofit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the team is a bit inactive: <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-nonprofit/" rel="nofollow">http://lists.debian.org/debian-nonprofit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=478&#038;cpage=1#comment-122774</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mint without the Internet can still play your mp3s and give you 3d acceleration.  Patents don&#039;t apply to domestic users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mint without the Internet can still play your mp3s and give you 3d acceleration.  Patents don&#8217;t apply to domestic users.</p>
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